Trae Stephens & Gwyneth Paltrow on the GOOP Podcast. Stephens is co-founder of a military tech company that stole a fine name from Tolkien.

Things got particularly odd when the two dug into religion. Stephens, a devout Christian, brought up the Pope’s Palm Sunday homily, in which Leo XIV declared that “Jesus does not listen to the prayers of those that wage war.”

and then

Stephens liked that. Warmongering can be good, he seemed to interpret, if only done with a pure heart, and without against-ness. “And so if you’re approaching it with a heart of peace, I think it’s very different on a mystical level than approaching it with a heart at war.”

In school, in my work, I have come to the conclusion that being a child is hard work. Being a teacher is also hard work. And the same goes for being a parent and many other things. But all of those have a simple baseline of not being an asshole. If I can stay above that line I am not doing so bad.

Actively building and designing weapons and then profiting from war makes you an asshole. NO matter what you think you hold in your heart. Because all I can see in there is evil and piles of shit.

via Mother Jones